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Posted by: neokewl
On: July 10 2017 09:34 AM
[QUOTE=ashish18;n2531986] Please explain with any example or precedence.[/QUOTE] 2007.December till September 2008 ... US was in a recession for almost an entire year till it went to hell.
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On: July 10 2017 09:49 AM
Equity Cash segment at NSE all rates are freezed ...... Message from Broker - There's a market wide issue with NSE feeds and order completion that's affecting all brokers. We are awaiting for clarity on this issue from the exchange. MSG from ZERODHA ????? Ghost of P-Notes back ...... ??? back to Hell ..... ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Posted by: humblefool
On: July 10 2017 09:57 AM
[QUOTE=Manoj2012;n2531375]Admins and Moderators ........ What's Happening with IREF ..... ? Where has the Multi-Quote and EDIT Button suddenly disappeared ... ??[/QUOTE] [FONT=trebuchet ms]Update Table statements are quite expensive to execute on SQL databases, given scan, locks etc. My guess is they found high number of updates, couldn't handle loads and disabled it.[/FONT]
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Posted by: Manoj2012
On: July 10 2017 10:00 AM
[QUOTE=humblefool;n2532071] [FONT=trebuchet ms]Update Table statements are quite expensive to execute on SQL databases, given scan, locks etc. My guess is they found high number of updates, couldn't handle loads and disabled it.[/FONT][/QUOTE] Are you Sure .............. ?????
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Posted by: Manoj2012
On: July 10 2017 10:01 AM
[QUOTE=humblefool;n2532071] [FONT=trebuchet ms]Update Table statements are quite expensive to execute on SQL databases, given scan, locks etc. My guess is they found high number of updates, couldn't handle loads and disabled it.[/FONT][/QUOTE] Why no communication to the forum members from admins / mods ....
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Posted by: Manoj2012
On: July 10 2017 10:23 AM
[QUOTE=Manoj2012;n2532067] Equity Cash segment at NSE all rates are freezed ...... Message from Broker - There's a market wide issue with NSE feeds and order completion that's affecting all brokers. We are awaiting for clarity on this issue from the exchange. MSG from ZERODHA ????? Ghost of P-Notes back ...... ??? back to Hell ..... ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????[/QUOTE] NSE to reopen at 10:45 AM .... New Pre open at 10.30
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Posted by: ashish18
On: July 10 2017 10:41 AM
[QUOTE=neokewl;n2532055] 2007.December till September 2008 ... US was in a recession for almost an entire year till it went to hell.[/QUOTE] And US markets made its top in october 2007.
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Posted by: Manoj2012
On: July 10 2017 10:58 AM
[QUOTE=ashish18;n2532088] And US markets made its top in october 2007.[/QUOTE] I guess what is missing now ....... is a blow up top.
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Posted by: Manoj2012
On: July 10 2017 11:09 AM
[B][SIZE=26px]Reliance Jio hacked in possibly biggest data breach ever in India; probe ordered[/SIZE][/B] The Financial Express Published on July 10, 2017 [SIZE=24px][B] Reliance Jio hacked: The company has said that the database is safe and a probe has been ordered[/B][/SIZE] New Delhi, July 10: Reliance Jio hacked: In a major setback to Mukesh Ambani led Reliance Industries today, it has been revealed that its new telco arm Reliance Jio database has been hacked. The company has said that the database is safe and that a probe has been ordered t find out what exactly had happened. The numbers involved are as high as 120 mn, but their exact status is not known yet and this could well turn out to be the biggest data breach ever in India. According to a statement released by Reliance Jio spokesperson, �We have come across the unverified and unsubstantiated claims of the website and are investigating it. Prima facie the data appears to be unauthentic. We want to assure our subscribers that their data is safe and maintained with highest security. Data is only shared with authorities as per their requirement. We have informed law enforcement agencies about the claims of the website and will follow through to ensure strict action is taken. [url]http://www.financialexpress.com/industry/reliance-jio-hacked-in-possibly-biggest-data-breach-ever-in-india-mukesh-ambani-telco-says-data-safe-probe-ordered/756235/[/url] [SIZE=36px][B]All Adhaar Biometric used to get a Jio-sim ....... Compromised ...... ???[/B][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=36px]Well Done Digital India [/SIZE][/B]
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Posted by: neokewl
On: July 10 2017 12:23 PM
[QUOTE=ashish18;n2532088] And US markets made its top in october 2007.[/QUOTE] Ah, I thought it was Mar 2008 .. thanks for the correction
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Posted by: Manoj2012
On: July 10 2017 02:21 PM
[SIZE=18px]Futures & Options should be taken away from exchanges and given to depositories so if one exchange fails public can trade on another exchange.[/SIZE]
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Posted by: revhappy
On: July 10 2017 05:52 PM
Juicy levels in gold. Will it fall further? [USER="160547"]TruthSeeker1[/USER] and [USER="8588"]wiseman[/USER] , what do you think?
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Posted by: revhappy
On: July 10 2017 05:58 PM
Gold is falling because central banks are raising rates and it is better to hold debt rather than gold, because of better yield on debt. But then how high will yields go? May be another 2% on the 10 year. So on a 10 year cumulative yield will be about 20%. Gold has already fallen about 10% from the peak. May be another 10% fall?
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Posted by: TruthSeeker1
On: July 10 2017 06:26 PM
[QUOTE=revhappy;n2532296]Gold is falling because central banks are raising rates and it is better to hold debt rather than gold, because of better yield on debt. But then how high will yields go? May be another 2% on the 10 year. So on a 10 year cumulative yield will be about 20%. Gold has already fallen about 10% from the peak. May be another 10% fall?[/QUOTE] People with no guts to pull the trigger or hold on to longs (weak hands) are just being suckered out of GOLD/SILVER.... IMO..... Big money is getting in so they are smashing it with derivatives to get it cheaper... The increased volume in gold since gold hit its low of 1030 shows a classic accumulation phase... smart money cant hide..its always in the volume... they cant buy it all at once so they spread the purchases over time to not move the price too much on the upside... i am adding silver at every drop bringing my average down... loving the current sale.... Strong reversal might be on the cards...... My expectation is silver will at-least double from here by end of 2018 and gold will go up by 50%.....
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Posted by: lalit229
On: July 10 2017 06:54 PM
[QUOTE=TruthSeeker1;n2532302] People with no guts to pull the trigger or hold on to longs (weak hands) are just being suckered out of GOLD/SILVER.... IMO..... Big money is getting in so they are smashing it with derivatives to get it cheaper... The increased volume in gold since gold hit its low of 1030 shows a classic accumulation phase... smart money cant hide..its always in the volume... they cant buy it all at once so they spread the purchases over time to not move the price too much on the upside... i am adding silver at every drop bringing my average down... loving the current sale.... Strong reversal might be on the cards...... My expectation is silver will at-least double from here by end of 2018 and gold will go up by 50%.....[/QUOTE] How do you invest in silver!!!! physical buy, MCX or something else
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Posted by: TruthSeeker1
On: July 10 2017 07:07 PM
[QUOTE=lalit229;n2532316] How do you invest in silver!!!! physical buy, MCX or something else[/QUOTE] physical ... buy 1 kg bars ....
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Posted by: lalit229
On: July 10 2017 07:14 PM
[QUOTE=TruthSeeker1;n2532322] physical ... buy 1 kg bars ....[/QUOTE] Thanks for the reply.Just wondering if you take receipt and pay taxes..or in other words ho much you pay extra than real value of 1 kg of silver..How you confirm the purity etc.
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Posted by: TruthSeeker1
On: July 10 2017 07:32 PM
[QUOTE=lalit229;n2532325] Thanks for the reply.Just wondering if you take receipt and pay taxes..or in other words ho much you pay extra than real value of 1 kg of silver..How you confirm the purity etc.[/QUOTE] I cant tell you here how i buy exactly .. but you can find a refinery in your city to get the best price with lest markup and of-course pay all the taxes... jewellers also sell silver bullion with 999 purity but you need to find one you trust... there is likely to be less cheating in silver than in gold... as silver if of much lesser value... and very little is to be make by adulteration like the iridium being miked in gold coins... you can also buy silver-1000 MCX contract and take delivery but it might be hard if you are not in major city where the delivery gets settled... expect to pay any where between 1.5k-3k over MCX spot price .... minted bars are more expensive they have clean finish with 999 seal... rough bars a cheaper but look ugly... its only personal preference... i do have have both... You need to pack them in air tight plastic bag as they do tarnish... check price below [url]http://bangalorerefinery.com/rate.php[/url]
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Posted by: neokewl
On: July 10 2017 08:31 PM
[QUOTE=Manoj2012;n2532217][SIZE=18px]Futures & Options should be taken away from exchanges and given to depositories so if one exchange fails public can trade on another exchange.[/SIZE][/QUOTE] I think it was the volumes & it broke in pre-markets itself. .. the SEBI directive din't leave a choice shorts but to cover up the positions.. this should continute tomorrow as well, 10,000 coming up shortly.. Before that 9800 :) Seems like SEBI has placed a semi-perma-bull structure in place... I dont see how prices will fall unless Indians start pulling money out of MF & DII take short positions. Unlikely to happen any time soon.
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Posted by: neokewl
On: July 10 2017 08:35 PM
I dont think what happens to US markets will affect us now :) .... SEBI have managed to place in a semi-perma-bull-structure. The only care govt needs to take now is ensure job creation is happening & those with existing jobs continue on payrolls.
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Posted by: neokewl
On: July 10 2017 08:41 PM
SGXNifty hits 9800 :) ...
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Posted by: TruthSeeker1
On: July 10 2017 08:47 PM
[QUOTE=neokewl;n2532353]I dont think what happens to US markets will affect us now :) .... SEBI have managed to place in a semi-perma-bull-structure. The only care govt needs to take now is ensure job creation is happening & those with existing jobs continue on payrolls.[/QUOTE] They sure are goosing the economy with borrowed money ie deficit spending ... Already the deficit for first half of 2017 is higher than entire 2016... An economy with borrowed money is just disaster waiting to happen... Just as i had expected low oil prices have emboldened this gov to spend non existent money like there is no tomorrow... and cover the interest expense by taxing petrol at ridiculously high tax rate... So common sense would dictate that this party will end very very badly... job creation where...? there are no jobs any where in private sector.... people are getting a fired off left right and centre... hikes have been postponed indefinitely ... gov is in no position to create jobs... look at the deficit... one hot money fleeing event and it will all go downhill before you can click the sell button...
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Posted by: iceemani
On: July 10 2017 09:01 PM
[QUOTE=TruthSeeker1;n2532359] An economy with borrowed money is just disaster waiting to happen... Just as i had expected low oil prices have emboldened this gov to spend non existent money like there is no tomorrow... and cover the interest expense by taxing petrol at ridiculously high tax rate... So common sense would dictate that this party will end very very badly... ..[/QUOTE] high rates on low oil is not borrowed money. of course high budget cuts would be needed when oil returns to $100(which looks highly unlikely with present conditions), it could slow down economy, but why it has to be a disaster crash?
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Posted by: neokewl
On: July 10 2017 09:45 PM
[QUOTE=TruthSeeker1;n2532359] They sure are goosing the economy with borrowed money ie deficit spending ... Already the deficit for first half of 2017 is higher than entire 2016... An economy with borrowed money is just disaster waiting to happen... Just as i had expected low oil prices have emboldened this gov to spend non existent money like there is no tomorrow... and cover the interest expense by taxing petrol at ridiculously high tax rate... So common sense would dictate that this party will end very very badly... job creation where...? there are no jobs any where in private sector.... people are getting a fired off left right and centre... hikes have been postponed indefinitely ... gov is in no position to create jobs... look at the deficit... one hot money fleeing event and it will all go downhill before you can click the sell button...[/QUOTE] Wait baba.. let the earnings improve & private sector reduce debt holdings, capex will start...until then govt needs to ensure prices are low so that people spend.. this low inflation is already happening. Next to come is income tax reduction = more money to spend else GST will not be available.. Suspect this will happen in the winter session as Modi just spoke of income tax overhaul.. For the first time in decades I am seeing a prime minister of india who is decisive & trying to get things done.. The pace can be improved a bit but still faster than what previous ones have done.
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Posted by: TruthSeeker1
On: July 10 2017 09:48 PM
[QUOTE=iceemani;n2532367] high rates on low oil is not borrowed money. of course high budget cuts would be needed when oil returns to $100(which looks highly unlikely with present conditions), it could slow down economy, but why it has to be a disaster crash? [/QUOTE] due to demonetisation and huge liquidity coming into banks, banks are not able to lend out the money due to NPA crisis .. banks parked record amount of money in gov debt.. so gov is using that money to do all kinds of deficit spending , 7th commission hikes, new central gov hiring, fancy weapons etc... they would not have been able to do so if they dint have a revenue source like 55% tax on petrol to cover the interest payment on their debt... people have no option but to pay that tax as fuel is the blood supply of the economy... If you see private capital investments have completely frozen, gov is the only one propping up our economy with borrowed money... They will have to pay that money back in a shrinking economy...This is the reason they are cutting rates on gov pension funds, small savings etc... when OIL/Gold price rise or developed world hikes rates this will put them in a pickle... as they cant keep these high tax rate on fuel even if petrol goes back up to $75... Its just a house of cards... absent deficit gov spending our economy is frozen... even the gov acknowledges that there is no private sector job growth...
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Posted by: revhappy
On: July 11 2017 02:00 AM
[QUOTE=TruthSeeker1;n2532302] People with no guts to pull the trigger or hold on to longs (weak hands) are just being suckered out of GOLD/SILVER.... IMO..... Big money is getting in so they are smashing it with derivatives to get it cheaper... The increased volume in gold since gold hit its low of 1030 shows a classic accumulation phase... smart money cant hide..its always in the volume... they cant buy it all at once so they spread the purchases over time to not move the price too much on the upside... i am adding silver at every drop bringing my average down... loving the current sale.... Strong reversal might be on the cards...... My expectation is silver will at-least double from here by end of 2018 and gold will go up by 50%.....[/QUOTE] Finally pulled the trigger. Bought into this fund: [url]https://secure.fundsupermart.com/fsm/admin/buy/factsheet/factsheetSCASCOM.pdf[/url] Invested 30K SGD(about 15L INR) i.e. 5% of my portfolio. It is a commodities fund, so it has gold, silver, oil and natural gas. All beaten down commodities. This is my first commodities investment. Lets see how this goes :)
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