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Posted by: humblefool
On: November 20 2017 11:23 AM
[QUOTE=sapvin82;n2566459][QUOTE=humblefool;n2566162][QUOTE=sapvin82;n2566140][QUOTE=Bharatiya;n2564763][QUOTE=TruthSeeker1;n2564757] russia already defaulted that is why its has low debt and you cite it to prove debt does notmatter.. ? default destroyed Russia... what remains its ruins its in rebuilding phase and high taxes and regulation still persist for its communist past... hence slow to low growth [/QUOTE] Debt did not destroy Russia. Russia destroyed itself due its economic Policies. Experts say it was rapid adoption of Capitalism. After the collapse of Soviet Union, Russian Govt was very eager to adopt "Capitalism". While that's not entirely wrong, they should've done it steadily. Instead the shock therapy destroyed Russian economy. Massive Privatization, Deregulation, shutting of State industry, liberalization of economy, lifting currency controls. It was like giving 10 doses of chemotherapy in single session. As a result, Russian economy failed. Production collapsed. Industry collapsed. Currency collapsed. Russian Ruble was massively devalued and hence they could not make payment on foreign Debt. That is the reason of Russia's default on foreign payments. Dear friend, you have this simplistic notion of blaming everything on Debt/Deficit etc. Real knowledge takes time and understanding and analysis. These simplistic notions of debt/deficit hysteria are just convenient choice to ignore the thorough understanding of underlying reality. And i never said Govt ALONE should invest in Research and Development. Whereas in western countries, Govt is a major driver of R&D, Private sector also contribute in this regard. As i said you are just trapped in ideologies and isms. Many developed countries do not subscribe to any -isms and ideologies. The leadership of many of these countries have become pragmatic. They are interested in action, implementation and results. If a particular economic sector is best served by Private interests, than Private corporations are promoted/supported to participate and run that particular sector. If a Particular sector is best served by Govt, than Govt actively participate and run that sector. Many economic interests are jointly pursued by Govt and private sector.[/QUOTE]For communists, it's always somebody else faults. Why you guys don't accept that after killing 10-20 millions people , destruction of trillions of wealth , communism has failed. Many developed nations you quote are in 20 trillion dollars worth of debt. LOL to you and your fellow communists. [/QUOTE]a. Communism is not a economic policy, its a economic process. b. You will be little surpised to learn, that US is a social democracy(Communism with democracy), this is the utopia the communists dream of. Lenin even wrote volumes about this. Social security, Freeway infrastructure, Dams, Airports, Direct democracy are all text book communism. c. You will be even more surprised to know building dams, railway networks, highways, airports and other national infrastructure is textbook communism. d. PF and national pension policies are a communist lucid dream like no other. e. Communism also includes running government schools, running IITs, it also includes running space programs like ISRO. Lastly in India communism == "Umbrella of things I hate". [/QUOTE]Building airports,roads,hospitals, railways are investments driven by capitalism. Communism is about subjugating people if they refuse or resist then kill . Millions in India, Cambodia, Russia, Europe have been killed to satisfy communists. Even then they are not satisfied. How many more will you kill before the obvious that communism never works And it will never will. Finally why don't you move to Venezuela and tell us how good communism is. [/QUOTE]None of what you described is Communism. You are confused between political strife and communism. Which can happen in a free market society too. What do you think Britains occupation of India was? It was free market economy at best. Which is why most VCs in the silicon valley think, India's economic systems would be better off under the British. People need to learn to look at political and economic systems in their own merit. Do yourself a favor, sit down and do some serious reading and come back. He said, she said, college bench level, barber shop level discussions. What chachaji, and mamaji think communism is basically '[i]I hate these policies[/i]' arguments don't work. And is one of the biggest reason I think right wing politics in this country is a huge joke, and will likely never work for a long time. Most people don't even understand the basics of what economic systems work like and are largely driven prejudice. US economics today is the poster boy advertisement for social democracies(socialism) if you had stable politics with socialism.
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Posted by: Bharatiya
On: November 20 2017 01:14 PM
People are foolish to equate policies with ideologies. Govt spending money on Infrastructure/Airport/Roads = Socialism or Communism. That's narrow minded thinking. Policies should not be GENERALIZED to point of ideologies. So and so policy is Socialism. So and so policy is communism. So and so Policy in Capitalism. This kind of perspective is typical of naive Political thinking.
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Posted by: MANOJa
On: November 20 2017 03:18 PM
[h=1]Unsold home inventory to fall in 2018 as builders focus on completion: Fitch[/h] According to Fitch, the introduction of goods and services tax (GST) is shifting demand towards completed properties as they attract lower taxes[URL="https://realty.economictimes.indiatimes.com/author/479238876/sanu-sandilya"]Sanu Sandilya[/URL] | ETRealty | November 20, 2017, 10:05 IST NEW DELHI: Number of homes unsold is expected to fall in 2018 as most [URL="https://realty.economictimes.indiatimes.com/tag/real+estate"]real estate[/URL]developers will focus on completing their projects to comply with the Real Estate (Regulation and Development) Act of 2016 ([URL="https://realty.economictimes.indiatimes.com/tag/rera"]RERA[/URL]), according to [URL="https://realty.economictimes.indiatimes.com/tag/fitch"]Fitch[/URL] Ratings. The agency also expects the pace of new launches to keep reducing in 2018. Unsold inventory for a sample of seven large developers rose to Rs 66,800 crore at financial year 2016-17, from Rs 63,100 crore at financial year 2015-16. "This translates to an inventory turnover of around three years of annual revenue at FYE17, up from around two years at FYE16," the agency said in a release. According to Fitch, the introduction of goods and services tax ([URL="https://realty.economictimes.indiatimes.com/tag/gst"]GST[/URL]), while broadly neutral for the sector, is shifting demand towards completed properties as they attract lower taxes. "These [URL="https://realty.economictimes.indiatimes.com/tag/trends"]trends[/URL] will drive consolidation in 2018 - larger and more financially sound developers will survive, while smaller or highly leveraged companies will likely resort to asset sales to shore up liquidity," it added. Meanwhile, Fitch expects the leverage of the two developers it rates - Lodha Developers and Indiabulls Real Estate - to drop slightly to 68% and 67%, respectively, in FY18 and FY19, compared with 70% as of FY17. Total presales for both the developers are expected to rise to around Rs 14,000 crore in FY18 and over Rs 16,000 crore in FY19, from around Rs 9,500 crore in FY17. The rating agency doesn't expect the companies to spend on land banking over this period as they are likely to focus on completing existing projects where land costs have been incurred. [url]https://realty.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/residential/unsold-home-inventory-to-fall-in-2018-as-builders-focus-on-completion-fitch/61719880[/url]
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Posted by: JoBhiMain
On: November 20 2017 04:29 PM
[QUOTE=humblefool;n2566680][QUOTE=sapvin82;n2566459][QUOTE=humblefool;n2566162][QUOTE=sapvin82;n2566140][QUOTE=Bharatiya;n2564763][QUOTE=TruthSeeker1;n2564757] russia already defaulted that is why its has low debt and you cite it to prove debt does notmatter.. ? default destroyed Russia... what remains its ruins its in rebuilding phase and high taxes and regulation still persist for its communist past... hence slow to low growth [/QUOTE] Debt did not destroy Russia. Russia destroyed itself due its economic Policies. Experts say it was rapid adoption of Capitalism. After the collapse of Soviet Union, Russian Govt was very eager to adopt "Capitalism". While that's not entirely wrong, they should've done it steadily. Instead the shock therapy destroyed Russian economy. Massive Privatization, Deregulation, shutting of State industry, liberalization of economy, lifting currency controls. It was like giving 10 doses of chemotherapy in single session. As a result, Russian economy failed. Production collapsed. Industry collapsed. Currency collapsed. Russian Ruble was massively devalued and hence they could not make payment on foreign Debt. That is the reason of Russia's default on foreign payments. Dear friend, you have this simplistic notion of blaming everything on Debt/Deficit etc. Real knowledge takes time and understanding and analysis. These simplistic notions of debt/deficit hysteria are just convenient choice to ignore the thorough understanding of underlying reality. And i never said Govt ALONE should invest in Research and Development. Whereas in western countries, Govt is a major driver of R&D, Private sector also contribute in this regard. As i said you are just trapped in ideologies and isms. Many developed countries do not subscribe to any -isms and ideologies. The leadership of many of these countries have become pragmatic. They are interested in action, implementation and results. If a particular economic sector is best served by Private interests, than Private corporations are promoted/supported to participate and run that particular sector. If a Particular sector is best served by Govt, than Govt actively participate and run that sector. Many economic interests are jointly pursued by Govt and private sector.[/QUOTE]For communists, it's always somebody else faults. Why you guys don't accept that after killing 10-20 millions people , destruction of trillions of wealth , communism has failed. Many developed nations you quote are in 20 trillion dollars worth of debt. LOL to you and your fellow communists. [/QUOTE]a. Communism is not a economic policy, its a economic process. b. You will be little surpised to learn, that US is a social democracy(Communism with democracy), this is the utopia the communists dream of. Lenin even wrote volumes about this. Social security, Freeway infrastructure, Dams, Airports, Direct democracy are all text book communism. c. You will be even more surprised to know building dams, railway networks, highways, airports and other national infrastructure is textbook communism. d. PF and national pension policies are a communist lucid dream like no other. e. Communism also includes running government schools, running IITs, it also includes running space programs like ISRO. Lastly in India communism == "Umbrella of things I hate". [/QUOTE]Building airports,roads,hospitals, railways are investments driven by capitalism. Communism is about subjugating people if they refuse or resist then kill . Millions in India, Cambodia, Russia, Europe have been killed to satisfy communists. Even then they are not satisfied. How many more will you kill before the obvious that communism never works And it will never will. Finally why don't you move to Venezuela and tell us how good communism is. [/QUOTE]None of what you described is Communism. You are confused between political strife and communism. Which can happen in a free market society too. What do you think Britains occupation of India was? It was free market economy at best. Which is why most VCs in the silicon valley think, India's economic systems would be better off under the British. People need to learn to look at political and economic systems in their own merit. Do yourself a favor, sit down and do some serious reading and come back. He said, she said, college bench level, barber shop level discussions. What chachaji, and mamaji think communism is basically '[i]I hate these policies[/i]' arguments don't work. And is one of the biggest reason I think right wing politics in this country is a huge joke, and will likely never work for a long time. Most people don't even understand the basics of what economic systems work like and are largely driven prejudice. US economics today is the poster boy advertisement for social democracies(socialism) if you had stable politics with socialism. [/QUOTE]why are we talking about venezueal, US, etc etc. Why not look at our own backyard once? I'm pretty sure you haven't read this till now. https://swarajyamag.com/politics/the-communists-kick-started-bengals-decline-exactly-half-a-century-ago
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Posted by: Bharatiya
On: November 20 2017 07:39 PM
[USER="78537"]MANOJa[/USER] In Old version theme, i am observing people are quoting multiple posts. As much as 5 posts are quoted in a single post. Like above. A Quote B, B Quote C, C Quote D, D Quote E......ultimately Post of A in included in Post of E and so on. This is an unnecessary feature. This enlarges page page length enormously. Simultaneous Quoting should be limited to 2 posts only, should not go on forever.
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Posted by: Bharatiya
On: November 20 2017 08:12 PM
[QUOTE=JoBhiMain;n2566765] I'm pretty sure you haven't read this till now. [url]https://swarajyamag.com/politics/the-communists-kick-started-bengals-decline-exactly-half-a-century-ago[/url] [/QUOTE] Yes, i haven't read this article because i don't read 3rd class tabloid websites like Swarajya magazine. Ironically speaking, this kind of state sponsored Tabloid journalism is same like Pravda of Communist Russia.
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Posted by: MANOJa
On: November 20 2017 10:28 PM
[USER="96570"]Bhartiya[/USER], all discussions on Multi quote issue moved to [url]https://www.indianrealestateforum.com/forum/iref%C2%AE-lounge/questions-suggestions/2540229-feedback-new-ui-functionality-performance[/url] . If u need to add anything more, post in that thread .
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